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1. Creator Deze man 2 days ago
  
  Amidst the speculation what else did i find..
  A FAQ i chanced upon on Uplaytablet's website:
  Not that i say there is any particular link here.. but the mention of two big crowsfunding sites (and giveaway) doesnt sound so good in my ears.
  http://www.uplaytablet.com/product/uplay-customized-android-smart-watch-white-label-z3-smart-watch-running-android-4-0-with-a-1-5-touch-screen-bluetooth-4-0-gravity-sensor-and-gyro/…
2. Creator Andrew Richter 2 days ago
  
  http://www.uplaytablet.com/product/uplay-customized-android-smart-watch-white-label-z3-smart-watch-running-android-4-0-with-a-1-5-touch-screen-bluetooth-4-0-gravity-sensor-and-gyro/…
3. Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago
  
  @LiLo:
  Why do you doubt he'll release a demo? he'll just use one of the Z3 he bought...
  The question is not the existence of a product -
  The question is if there's a unique design of a watch as claimed in the main video, or is it a generic Chinese watch that's rebranded. (using Kickstarter only as a mediating selling platform, inflating the actual costs from under 50$ to over a 100$)
4. Creator LiLo 2 days ago
  
  +1 Trogdor. Doubt we will see clear answers, though (or, Gods forbid, an actual demo of the actual product)
5. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  Adding two new ones on top of Trogdor the Burninators addition:
  How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
  How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
  What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
  What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
  What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
  What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
  Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
  What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
  Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
  What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
  Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
  What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
  -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
  Can you give us more information on the multi-touchscreen? (this is mostly for the engineer in me, as far as is it capacitive etc)
  Can you give us any specs on the vibration? Is it comparable to the Pebble in terms of strength? Does it have different vibration settings?
  You might have answered this but: Does each watch come with 1 leash device?
6. Creator Trogdor 2 days ago
  
  Adding to list at bottom:
  
  How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
  How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
  What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
  What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
  What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
  What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
  Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
  What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
  Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
  What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
  Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
  What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
  -Apps tested with portal both successes and failures.
7. Creator Nguyen Nhat Linh 2 days ago
  
  FYI my fellow backers, for future projects if you want to be able to comment, you don't have to pledge the minimum reward level. Just pledge $1 and choose no reward.
8. Creator Gabe 2 days ago
  
  Wow, a lot of activity during the night. I'm going to stay optimistic but for caution's sake I'm bringing down my pledge down to $5... Still rooting for Vak & his team but too many questions that need to be answered, and the answers need no be good.
9. Creator Judith Handby 2 days ago
  
  The watch is exactly similar to the Z3 Chinese model on Alibaba trading website that probably is a ok device but not worth a kickstarter project. I'm out...
10. Creator BJ Van Gundy 2 days ago
  
  I just did the same @Amir. Besides, I can use the watch stand for my Omate on my desk.
  
  I just want to be able to continue to watch this train wreck.
11. Creator Amir Soltani 2 days ago
  
  I've changed my backing to $5 to still be able to leave comments.
12. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  We will be giving you all of your answers very soon. It takes time to compile everything with our team.
13. Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago
  
  My last comment, goodbye fellow backers !!
14. Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago
  
  @Vak - its enough !!
  Accept the truth and suspend it, thanks.
15. Creator Darren Soo 2 days ago
  
  Why I don't get my answer??
16. Creator Denny The Backer 2 days ago
  
  Hahaha.. 3-4 updates in very close time :). Seems like someone beard on fire.. If it bonafide project it will make many happy. Its end for me. Monitoring this from outside just to see the joke of it...
17. Creator LiLo 2 days ago
  
  @vak - a friendly advice. The backers dont care about old eMails and screenshots.
  
  We simply want to know what we are giving money for - give us the specs of your watch, give us a demo of usage that proves you have what you claim you have spent years producing. Easy and simple if what you say is true
18. Creator Tira Rainer 2 days ago
  
  @VAK
  Are you joking on all the backers here ?? It is the 1 of April or December ?
  You made an update that a child can do that!
  You show us designs that was not made by you, by the way its very easy to take a watch from the net and modified it and just add a screen on it, is what you did in your update!!
  By the way nice adaptation trying to take the Pebble body in red and adapt it on your watch!! hahahahaha, Vak I am sorry but I am really dont know if to laugh or Cry.
  So you are telling us that APPSCOMM copy from you the design ??
  Just how they will copy if you never present before your watch ??
  And how APPSCOMM design the same watch before you if they copy from you ??
  For the patent, this is what you are thinking is a patent ?
  Waiting for all the answers from your team.
  @Vak I got to tell you, you are funny man.
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  Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
  Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
  I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
  1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
  2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
  Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
  Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
  3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
  4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
  5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
  6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
  7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
  Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
  Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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  Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
  I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
  I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
  The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
  Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
  Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
  Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
  The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
  Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
  For all the backers here is all the proof
  Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
  Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
  http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
  http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
  http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
  http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
  http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
  http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
  Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
  Next time dont take us for idiots !!
19. Creator Arthur 2 days ago
  
  if meet will have to be in 2 weeks, got finals, and if i attend, will be bringing friends as i just know the basic in technology, but friends will help out with the details.
  
  But, i'll let you know when im free, but in the mean time, its best to answer questions other backers have listed, as its similar to mine. Thank you
20. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  If your question is in here:
  How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
  How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
  What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
  What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
  What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
  What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
  Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
  What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
  Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
  What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
  Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
  What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
  
  Please stop asking them again and again. If your question is missing, please add it to the list. Lets try to not make more work for Vak, and maybe we'll get answers faster.
  Thank you guys
21. Creator Randall McQuade 2 days ago
  
  Specifically I would like an answer to the Memory specifications. 4GB of main memory and 4 GB of flash? Seems odd it would have 4GB of main memory as I don't think there have been any other cell phones released to date with that much memory.
22. Creator Amir Soltani 2 days ago
  
  It is real obvious that when a creator struggle to deliver proofs, and also there are other images like the Chinese watches selling for less, the massive number of available rewards, the fancy long homepage that is missing crucial evidence, something is not perfect here and if Vak want us to believe this is real he's got work to do. Frankly seeing the images of identical watches made in China for less turn me off big time. Here is a similar campain that went wrong because of fake pictures and finally the creator pulled the plug hours from the end even when he was funded 900% of what he asked for: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/caluka/lucitm-advanced-lucid-dream-inducer
23. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  We will compile the answers with our team for all of that. Also Arthur lets do it! Inbox me your phone number please. Come meet our team, come to our office and we can chat it up. Starbucks on me! I will give you a tour!
24. Creator Stephen Mitchell 2 days ago
  
  $$$$$ still dropping
25. Creator Trogdor 2 days ago
  
  @Vak
  
  I have some direct questions.
  
  1] Do you feel your IP was stolen? Yes or No. I know you stated you have had your attorneys send letters to cease and desist. I am looking for a direct statement here.
  
  2] Did you and your team design the watch, charger and app portal? Not 2 out of 3 but all the items listed.
  
  3] Do you and your team have any involvement whatsoever with the factory or individuals that are currently building the Z3? Past or present?
  
  4] Please continue to have the engineers address the technical questions of yesterday and today.
26. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  @Vak - Ok, I will wait for answers. I think it is really the lack of details on the technical specs that is causing most of the doubt. If one of your engineers could put together a decent list of specs it would probably go a long way toward assuaging any doubts.
  I think it would be cool if a backer in California could do something like webcast a meetup with you, or if one of your engineers could do a AMA chat.
  I can understand where you're coming from, working for a small company myself. Hopefully we can get these doubts straightened out and have a successful project.
  
  This is my list of questions, compiling some from others as well:
  How much RAM does the watch have? What specs on the RAM?
  How does the metal body effect the Wifi, bluetooth, and the Qi charging?
  What are ALL of the differences between Qi and non-Qi watches?
  What are the battery specs? Not hours, but what specific battery is in the non-Qi, and what size Qi battery etc.
  What is the status of ios compatibility? What do you know works with ios phones?
  What apps work on the watch itself aka without phone connected?
  Can you show videos of any of the apps you've made, or of apps working on a prototype? What can you show us so we can see the quality of your unique apps without compromising anything legally?
  What is the screen resolution? What is the 1080p referring to?
  Is the screen really OLED? Why use it over cheaper options?
  What version android does both versions of the watch run? Are there plans to upgrade the version at some point?
  Is liquipel what you will be doing as far as water resistance? If not what IPA rating are you shooting for?
  What is the watch band size? Is it a standard size or do we have to buy any additional bands from you?
  
  @Arthur - you should do it
27. Creator Arthur 2 days ago
  
  @Vak I live in SoCal would love to see your prototype, :)
28. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  You will also see that these other watches that others have linked making these claims do not have the software that our watch has. From the Tracker, Leash, Rockin' 9 notifications and in the spirit of crowdfunding and crowdsourcing as we hit our goals we will be integrating the apps that YOU our BACKERS get to vote on. Because we are doing this as much as for you as it is for us.
29. Creator Asterix 2 days ago
  
  That's it. Sayanora!!!! I am out!!!
30. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  You have to realize Vishak that we have years of emails that we have to sort through. And I will be posting more about our manufacturing once our attorneys sort those answers out. Until then we can not disclose too much on that end.
31. Creator Darren Soo 2 days ago
  
  What kind of metal is the watch.. will it get rust?lol. And what's the weight with metal?
32. Creator Asterix 2 days ago
  
  @Vak, are you serious with those updates really? Or is this some kind of an April fools joke. It's not even April!!!!
33. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  And sorry Stephen that you feel like I am getting snappy. Please see it from our perspective also please. Can you go ahead and list your questions and we will give you answers. If it is a technical question I will ask the engineers(hardware) to answer them. If it is software questions I will ask our software guys to answer those questions. When you are bombarded with questions from people who somethings don't get to see the sweat, money, hardwork of a team to do create a product it is tough on us. We also realize at the end of the day we can not please everyone. And I wished you were in Southern California Stephen so we can go grab coffee and I can let you play with the watch and our prototype. We do appreciate every backer on here and the support. And you are correct we are asking for your money to help us make this project happen. And we realize that we couldn't do it unless there were awesome people like yourself on kickstarter trying to help us little guys.
34. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  Yes you are correct Lilo. It does not waterproof it. That is why they use their trademark term "watersafe" and the pricing to do so would have raised the cost of our watch. And the point of our watch was to make something with awesome software and apps. But also at a price point where the average person can afford.
35. Creator LiLo 2 days ago
  
  *prevenr damage from accidental dropping, I mean
36. Creator LiLo 2 days ago
  
  @Vak, liquipel is not waterproofing. It simply helps prevent accidental dropping of the device into water. One still is highly recommended to e.g not submerge the device (or even shower with it) intentionally..
37. Creator Stephen Mitchell 2 days ago
  
  Instead of getting snappy with us, since you are asking for OUR money. Why don't you start giving us REAL answers to our REAL questions and not pictures that show or prove nothing. Don't you see your pledge totals dropping? I do.
38. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  We believe there were questions about waterproofing and water resistance of the watch. We am digging up emails for that questions. We were looking to waterproof the watch using http://www.liquipel.com/ technology to do so. So give me time to find those emails please. Bare with me. We will answer all questions.
39. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  It should take less than an hour to ask one of their engineers how much RAM the watch has, what the screen resolution actually is, etc. Until all those are answered, until video is shown that the watch actually works in some capacity (3-4 months is the polishing phase not the development phase), and until the Z3 is shown to be a copy of this watch and not the other way around, there is still no reason to trust this project.
  I also don't see what you could threaten the chinese companies with since a) you have no patents and b) China is notorious for ignoring copyright and patent laws and has copied military and industrial designs from many countries.
40. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  A day of photoshop? I guess I should post the emails too then. Update #4 will be email of designs for ThaWulf. Then next update will be about software.
41. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  @Anurag - Are you joking? They took a day and then some, and come back and answer 0 of our questions. So far they've shown us a picture of a date on some piece of paper, and text that might be from a provisional patent application, which is cheap and doesn't actually do anything to secure a patent. Then they showed some images, none of them real, that could have been easily gathered/shopped/compiled in the day they've had.
42. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  Give us about 2-3 days and you will see that those sample of our watches will be taken off of those sites. They have been issued letters from our attorney for them to remove it from their site.
43. Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago
  
  Finally time to Back Off !!
44. Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago
  
  So they had their own design as seen in the video - but then they realized that they missed the train.
  Out of necessity they made a sharp turn, and changed to a "pimp my Chinese generic watch" project.
  It wouldn't have been so bad if it was stated as such from the beginning.
45. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  Update #3 progression of design.
46. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  @Stephen - It proves nothing. It's not a patent, or even an application for a patent. So someone else could still jump in and take the patent rights. Which conveniently means they can't disclose the full details of what the patent is for. The picture itself is a joke. At least provide a blacked out picture with the law office name and logo visible and some signatures of something. Nothing at all official in the photo to say it's anything but a date creator printed out.
47. Creator Darren Soo 2 days ago
  
  What kind of metal is that
48. Creator Stephen Mitchell 2 days ago
  
  In all fairness, I know nothing about patents and all that jazz, but Update #2 proves or solves nothing for me. How do we even know what that is for? I have a feeling this project will end up cancelled by KS in the near future, but I'm keeping my pledge in the hat for now. This is smelling fishier by the minute sorry to say.
49. Creator ThaWulf 2 days ago
  
  You say several times in the front page that you have patented features. If they were patented you would be able to link us to a copy of the patent, as the rights would already be owned by you, and they would have to be public knowledge so other companies could avoid infringing on them. But the "proof" you provided is for a provisional patent, which does not mean you have the patent, or even have applied for the patent yet. So why lie about having all these patents?
  
  "Provisional patent applications can be filed at many patent offices, such as the USPTO in the U.S. A provisional application provides an opportunity to place an application on file to obtain a filing date (thereby securing a priority date), but without the expense and complexity of a standard patent application. The disclosure in a provisional application may, within a limited time (one year in the U.S.), be incorporated into a standard patent application if a patent is to be pursued. Otherwise, the provisional application expires. No enforceable rights can be obtained solely through the filing of a provisional application." from wikipedia
50. Creator Vak Sambath 2 days ago
  
  Please bare with us as we update in the UPDATES section. -The Rock Smartwatch Team