Kickstarter

Creator Asterix 2 days ago

Ok, got it. Thanks for letting me know

Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago

@Vishak:
Well, you can't do that.... Don't forget international buyers need to add shipping costs...
So forget this line of accusation....

Believe me - there's more than enough going on here with hard evidence... leave these speculations out... otherwise he may prove you wrong on this point, which will bide him time and "ground" concerning the real issues...

Creator Asterix 2 days ago

I simply added up all the other pledged and subtracted from the total and it came to 2.8K something. When I did there were 7 at the $5 level. I knew I and @Lilo pledged $1.

Creator LiLo 2 days ago

@Vak, all will be forgiven if i can get the number to the model used in your intro film! ;P

Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago

@Vishak:
How can you see that more than 2K were raised in the 5$ level?

Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago

It's like with superman & Clack Kent... you can't see Vak and Tonya at the same time :-)
Wonder why....

Creator Tonya Byrne 2 days ago

@Vishak

I'm just speculating just like everyone. And I don't know how marketing really works in its first stages. Let's just have Vak and his team explain.

I'll go back to sleep for now

Creator Asterix 2 days ago

@Tonya, How do you know all of these?
Ok, even if I entertain all of your speculations. Why did they not show appscomm as their parter when they show pyntail as their partner.

Creator LiLo 2 days ago

"Tonya" (or whatever your real name is). This "collaboration theory" of yours just makes this seem even more farce-like.. If this was the case (that they source Appscomm for hardware) then it should have been clearly stated in the campaign instead of "we have been developing an watch for years" which is obviously, at best, a stretch of the truth. If all they are doing is rebranding an existing product then this is by default a project that should not even exist on Kickstarter.

Again - I am letting Vak have his say when they wake up in the west coast, but I felt something was not right already from the start and all that came up during the last 24th just made me very skeptical that this is a legitimate project.

Burden of proof is on the person who wants our money based on faith alone (Vak Sambath).

Creator Tonya Byrne 2 days ago

@ John Proffer

You seem like a very refined man of good education.. and I don't blame you for wanting to feel and sound superior.. You can call me ignorant all you want if that makes you feel better.

Between you and I.. it's easier to deal with being ignorant (cause you can learn) than having to deal with being arrogant.. ;)

Creator Tira Rainer 2 days ago

@Anurag Gupta Yes me, I was in contact with them a year ago but after receive the sample I understand that is a lost of time.
@ Tonya Byrne or Vak please as I ask before stop taking bakers for dumb and stop insulting our intelligence.
By the way if you think in this way it will erase my post and questions so you will not answer of them in this way you are wrong!!
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Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
For all the backers here is all the proof
Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
Next time dont take us for idiots !!

Creator Tonya Byrne 2 days ago

@Tira:

It seems to me that they commissioned Appscomm for the basic infrastructure, hired American developers and designers.. and for all we know both companies (Rock and the Chinese company) are working and collaborating really hard to produce a better product..

I'm not in the world of manufacturing.. but collaboration for the sake of a better looking and functioning product is normal..

This is not high school anymore where you point out something wrong in the open.. this is real life where collaborations happen between international companies..

So be easy on your scamming accusations.. you don't know everything.. (So do I).. but the possibilities of legitimate product development outweighs your cynicism..

Creator Asterix 2 days ago

Another problem with this campaign is shills. I can smell them a mile away.

Anyways FYI, more than 2K has been raised by 5 people at the $5 level.

Creator John Proffer 2 days ago

@tonya lol we arent "random haters" -- we're people who fund these projects on kickstarter. And we don't like being scammed, and kickstarter DOES have alot of scammers. You're a rather ignorant and naive person.

Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago

@Tonya Byrne - nobody is hater here, thats why there are 311 backers for this project and already funded 40K +
You are not understanding the reason of all these comments or simply do not want to understand !!

Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago

Did anyone contacted Appscom Z3 makers???

Creator Tonya Byrne 2 days ago

@ Deze man:

What you said about the app customization and possible hardware improvement actually makes a lot of sense.. after all these are developers, engineers, and designers that we are talking about..

If that's the case then I don't mind.. In fact I have to commend their hardwork for pimping something up and offering it to American consumers for a very friendly price..

I'm not one to hate.. especially with guys who put their heart out in a project.. for all we know they could've been cooking this project up for a year now.. like I said on my previous post.. to have some random haters discredit people's hardwork is a little bush league.. I will also wait..

And Vak please post in on the update section to appease your haters ;)

Good luck to you and your team.. don't get discouraged by haters.. my brother is the same entrepreneur who received a lot of flack early on.. he kept on working and I can say that he's in a good position now.. :)

These things are normal.. people trying to outdo each other on the comment section.. at the end of the day.. history will be the judge and I believe in your team and your product more than I believe some random hater on the comment section :p

Creator Tira Rainer 2 days ago

@Tonya sorry to inform you that what going here is not the same.
I will explain what Rock do it is very easy to do :
1.They contact Appscomm
2.They buy one Z3
3.They buy some cheap bands that you can see crystal clear that are not made for this watch and not fit correctly
4.They setup a nice project and pretend that develop this smartwatch for long years and a lot of investments.
But the problem here is they are not professional you can see that, Vak even dont know what are in his smartwatch ??!!??
So said!!

Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago

And wait again for some really good watch - and the way things are going only Apple can start the trend for Smartwatches !!

Creator John Proffer 2 days ago

@tonya really? you joined yesterday, backed only this product, and are lavishing on heavy support for vak? Gee I totally can't tell you're a plant.
this has nothing to do with the watch being made in China - most products on Kickstarter are manufactured in china, unless its stuff like CNC'd cases. The whole problem with this project is the very vague nature of it - lack of details, non-answers given by vak, questionable product origins (kickstarter forbids reselling products), the list is pretty long here.

Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago

Plus this Project has already been reported to Kickstarter Team, so they also must be keeping an eye on the proceedings - so chill out for 1-2 days :-)

Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago

Guys, we can CANCEL our PLEDGE any time so don't worry about money, lets give 1-2 days to Vak to get back to us with full details !!
If he is NOT giving all answers then after 2 days nobody will find me here for sure :-)

Creator Deze man 2 days ago

@ Tonya well said, will wait with utmost patience.. Until then speculations will keep on rolling in this comments section.

Creator Jonny Retro 2 days ago

After going through all these comments and checking all the links and videos and whatnot, I'm convinced this whole thing is a total scam, I'm pulling my backing

Creator Tira Rainer 2 days ago

Hi @Deze Man
The Z3 is a smartwatch that a Chinese company that call Appscomm producing for now more than one year you can buy it in China around 30usd in quantities, I test it and post pictures of it here, for my experience is far far away from the Gear, Pebble, Omate or the Pines.
1.No speaker
2.No microphone so you cant receive calls
3.The app to connect to your smartphone that come with the watch not working and its just for text,
4.To receive notifications you need to be connected to Wifi so outdoor you will not receive any notifications.
5.Very poor quality of the screen.
The list is very long

Creator Deze man 2 days ago

So what i can assume from what i have seen is (all statements below are based on what I sourced from the www)
1. they bulk-sourced Z3 (might have)
2. Used Pyntall LLC (to put up all the custom apps)
3. Got the Qi wireless charging capabilities..
4. Polished it a bit, and announced it on KS
5. Waiting for us to chip in to improve the details.

As everyone else.. Vak your tech guys have yet to respond. Before allegations are beyond control. However secretive you wish to be, you have come into the open to ask for supporting a project you thought could improve the Smartwatch arena. Now its time, to show us some details..

Creator Tonya Byrne 2 days ago

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt instead of hopping in to this bully machine. It's a product in its early stage and if he says that the rock will look and do something and he has a team of developers, engineers, and designers to make it happen.. (I read the bio)

Sometimes trying to discredit a product is easier than making and developing one. My brother is also an entrepreneur and I don't like it when people try to discredit and dishonor him (read: doubters) and not giving him any space to explain himself or the overall development of the product..

Vak to me is probably the same.. a hardworking entrepreneur trying to develop a product and bringing it for a very affordable price.

I don't care if they have their manufacturers in China (most US companies do that nowadays). What I care about is that he's willingness to turn something basic into something luxurious for a very consumer friendly price.

I also searched on Pyntail (The Rock's partner) just to see if they are real and capable to develop the necessary apps that Vak is claiming to have..

And they are.

Just calm down people.. I noticed that some of the backers take joy and pleasure in brining some down (typical jealous crab mentality)..

This is kickstarter for god sake! It's a community where we give entrepreneurs a chance to introduce their product, heck even more time to develop it further.. these are real people risking their image and money..

So to have some random keyboard warrior bullies is a little bush league in my opinion..

That being said.. I'm sure they have a good explanation.. and I'm even betting that they got screwed by their manufacturers (as a lot of companies who do their work in China)..

or better yet The Rock is a company that creates and develops a top of the line Smartwatch based off a basic one.. which is entirely fine.. a lot of Kickstarter companies do exactly that.

Again.. for the sake of good enterprise.. don't hate too much people.

Creator John Proffer 2 days ago

there are videos, but they are EXTREMELY brief and show nothing, like all of vak's answers so far.

Creator Deze man 2 days ago

Thanks @Tira for bringing the design details of Uplay Z3 to us as well as Rock LLC or Pyntall LLC 's attention.
So i am inclined to say uPlay Tablet (Z3) is either their company (which is American but manufactures in China).. Or Its just a waiting game until the technical people come up with clearer 'non-infomercial' type answers.

That said, the specs of Z3 dont match-up with the little amount of details quoted on this project page...

@ All I believe most of you would have looked through the videos.. I dont have flash active in my browser, so didnt see any videos on the project page, sorry for disturbing the actual timeline of the discussions happening here.

Creator Tira Rainer 2 days ago

@Alon Walter when a smartwatch will have 4GB of Ram is when a smartphone will have at least 8GB of Ram!! this poor Z3 have only 256mb of Ram.
What funny is in the video that @Deze post you can see Vak with the engineer, testing a board and he even dont know what are the spec of his own watch that he pretending to develop for very long years?? Hahahaha so funny this project,
Please Vak try to not insulting our intelligence anymore...
Keep in mind that your backers are the engine and the heart of your project.

Creator LiLo 2 days ago

I have a feeling that Vak is going to cancel the KS project when he wakes up. Just a hunch, but we'll see.

Creator Deze man 2 days ago

particularly this selection of videos in their album.. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/…

Creator Deze man 2 days ago

hey their facebook page has something.. I see Vak in the video https://www.facebook.com/photo.php… holding something like the Rock..

Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago

@Richard:
Actually the RAM is specified in the given link as 4GB... So at least in that regard it checks out...

Creator John Proffer 2 days ago

@vak im still waiting for the patent #'s that you claim to have. you keep avoiding answering that question despite asking twice. That ware the patent #'s you claim to have on the smartwatch and its apps?

Creator Richard Hustwit 2 days ago

This was posted in May (just took a Google image search):

http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Multifunction-watch/a/9000000128003.htm

Combined with:
- dodgy specification details
- Confusing release times (Christmas?)
- Unrealistic RAM capacities
- Technicians on holiday excuse
- Android 4.0? (that was released December 2011)

Sorry, I'm out (but I will keep an eye for updates, just in case I'm wrong)

Creator Alon Walter 2 days ago

Thanks @Tira Rainer, had my doubts, but this is just borderline insulting to our intelligence...
He didn't even bother to change the pictures...

Creator Anurag Gupta 2 days ago

@Vak
You neef to answer all the points raised by @Tira Rainer

I AM EXPECTING ANSWER BY TODAY IN THE UPDATE SECTION !!

Creator Justin R. Walterich 2 days ago

I guess I'll still ask a couple a questions that I have. There's no speaker, do you listen to music through a headphone jack, or is there a ad2p profile to use Bluetooth headphones or speakers? Can the microphone work for commands like Google now? Are there gestures with those sensors to do things like skip tracks, answer texts, etc.?

Creator Tira Rainer 2 days ago

Hi Vak still not seeing any reply to my questions just telling me that i am one day Kickstarter fan?
Did you think maybe i have more than one account ??
I also analyse today all your project and i got to tell you that I am more than disappointed.
1.The clock face screen with all the icons this is just a Gif that running on the screen.
2.If you didnt know this Chinese company that do the cheap watch (Z3)?!!? Why did you use the same pictures as the company in China that produce this cheap watch ?
Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
Your project picture : http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/
3.In your project you show us a picture of a board of the watch, but this board not corresponding of the watch board, how this board have a place for 2 buttons and your watch that you are presenting have 1 button ?? and many more that i will not enter in it because its seem to me that you dont understand anything about your project or on smartwatches.... strange for a person that develop it or pretend to develop it its sound to me better !
4.You show in your project a screen (Pebble style) but the screen of your watch is a 1.54 inch so how the screen of testing are smaller, different and not in color ?
5.For the QI charger if from Appscomm(Chinese company) they tell you it is possible dont believe them its just an advise for you, it will never work due to the back of this watch.
6.You are writing in the "UP AGAINST THE COMPETITION Table" that you have a 1.54 Oled ?? Did you know that a Oled screen only Samsung produce it and its starting from 1,63.
7.High definition 1080P how you get to that on a poor TFT screen with 240X240 ?
Every time that I see this project more and more I find it to much like a scam sorry!!
Hope that you will answer to all my questions and not try to answer one like you are trying to do with all the other backers!!!!
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Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
For all the backers here is all the proof
Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
Next time dont take us for idiots !!

Creator LiLo 2 days ago

As one of the skeptics of this project, I have to raise the possibility that the Rock team did get their product / design copied by the Chinese partner who is now selling cheaper copies of their original design. Has been known to happen before (even much bigger companies face these issues, so small startups are high at risk).

Having said that, and considering how light on technical info and tech knowledge this campaign (and the campaigns website) has been so far, the burden of proof lies on Vak and his team that they do indeed have an original product they are designing and building. Giving us proper spec information and easy to understand pictures/movie demoing the prototypes they must have, considering they are supposed to be a few months from delivery to consumers (and not marketing movies like the intro movie in the campaign, but a new film with Vak demoing one of his prototypes to the camera) (considering they promise delivery in a few months) is a base-line requirement to gain trust in this project again. I for one am staying at the $1 pledge level until given clear information and proof that his is not vaporware and not a copy/re-use of some cheap no-name "smart" watch.

Creator Seth Ulloa 2 days ago

With all US companies who manufacture their products in China, there is a risk. I just hope you guys get the funding necessary to get this to produce and shipped out on time. Based on what I see it's a great looking product and functionality looks like its well thought of too...I bought a Fitbit Flex that was about 100 bucks...this looks like it does that and more...Cant wait to get mines and try it out!!!

Creator Joshua 2 days ago

@VAK
First off good luck i hope it works out; also could you please post it as an update so i dont have to scroll to find it lol thank you

Creator Kurt Johnson (Glitchhawk) 2 days ago

hope everything gets straightened out! I have a pebble and i love it and I'm looking for something more.. and the gear doesn't cut it. and i missed out on Agent..

Creator Joshua 2 days ago

im staying in for the long run i agree with gabe and nicole i will just wait to see how this all plays out