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      Creator Vak Sambath 3 days ago

      @tira "I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!! "

      I am glad that you have been a fan for 1 day. Being that you just registered for kickstarter today. Other than that we are not taking away from any other smartwatch maker. In fact we thank companies like Pebble who paved the way not only for us but other bigger companies. As Samsung, Qualcomm, Apple and all the big guys are getting into this market. It's the small guys like us, omate, the agent, hot, and other smartwatch makers out there with limited budget trying to compete with these monstrous companies with infinite bankroll. That's why small guys like us come to kickstarter to make our dreams come true.

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      Creator Asterix 3 days ago

      @Vak I am really hoping you sort this out!!!

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      Creator Tonya Byrne 3 days ago

      Hey Vak,

      I really have no issues with what other people are saying. I'm in agreement with Nicole.. as long as my watch don't get delayed and you deliver with your promises then I'll be a happy backer.

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      Creator Anurag Gupta 3 days ago

      @Vak (Creator)
      WE WILL WAIT FOR CLEAR UPDATES FROM YOU AND YOUR TEAM !!

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      Creator Vak Sambath 3 days ago

      After we hear back from the manufacturer I will give you an answer Nicole. Thank you for support and everyone else it's encouraging to see people sympathize with our situation.

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      Creator nicole dolly 3 days ago

      What I need to know is will this now delay my product?!?!?!!!!!!!!!

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      Creator Vak Sambath 3 days ago

      @trogdor thank you for your patience and in the end everyone will have answers after we get some answers on a few things. Our whole team feels like we have been stabbed in the heart from the back. We are all in shock.

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      Creator Romandro 3 days ago

      @Trogdor,

      No worries. A lot of my relatives often miss the R as well ;)

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      Creator nicole dolly 3 days ago

      Rework or not I don't care I just want a nice looking functioning not ridiculously looking smartwatch. Hell I would buy a pebble but I just can't do the retro black and white screen. Will we even be wearing these next year or will the novelty wear off???????

      What I need to is the answer 3 and 6268 and

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      *@Romandro -- I really hate the keyboard on this ultralight.... sorry about that

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Romando

      Fair enough - we'll both wait this one out for a bit :)

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      Creator Vak Sambath 3 days ago

      I am not here to blame or make acquisitions just yet. Please give us time to give you all the full story and everyone can decide on their own.

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      Creator Romandro 3 days ago

      @trogdor

      I'm being more realistic as a lot of products nowadays are made overseas and it's mainly a matter of improving it -- whether from hardware or software -- to cater to its desired market.

      For The Rock I think they were able to do two things..

      Make a normal looking hardware.. to a highly sophisticated Smartwatch by developing out of the box apps, design and redesigning the band, etc.. It's like buying an apple pie in Albertsons and putting loads of time to make it look and taste like an apple pie from Whole Foods. (Personally I think that requires a lot of effort haha)

      And they've also catered something that a lot marginal smartwatches have failed to do.. provide a very affordable and consumer friendly price point.. I showed this link to some of my friends and they actually wanted to buy one for themselves and gift as gifts to their girlfriends, etc.. Just because of its $97 price point..

      Now they have 42 more days to clarify everything or better yet.. improve their existing product to a better one.. given that they don't change the price point ;)

      Once they change the price point then I'll have problems with Vak :p

      That being said.. I commend everyone's due diligence to make this product better.. because everybody wins if the consumer gets the most bang for their buck :)

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Vak:

      My takeaway is you feel your IP has been stolen. Is that a fair statement?

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Vak

      These two pictures are very, very similar...which came first?
      http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      -vs-
      https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/321/575/e27de70822a6f8fe49a9a5d01a6bcbca_large.jpg…

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      Creator Vak Sambath 3 days ago

      @anurag as you can see the video date of that YouTube video is Nov 12th, 2013. I wished we did our research and spotted that video first. Being that we have been working on this for so long. It's discouraging that the manufacture would release this without our knowledge. Once again backers that believe in this project please give us time. Imagine putting years and hundreds of thousands into a project for this to happen. From our design team, software development partners, engineers, marketers(yes we used marketing guys to help). We are more at a lost than anyone else. We put a lot of time and money into this project.

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Marco / @Romandro

      Always good to see new members of the Kickstarter community!

      I don't disagree that refinement and improvement have a real value. I don't have a problem with any of that. Assuming that this is a rework my issue is the presentation used.

      // Technical detail was inaccurate [4g is a cellular technology, not an indication of memory, 240 x 240 != 1080p resoluition...I could go on]

      // The 'spirit' of Kickstarter tends to lean towards ideas and projects brought to fruition, not necessarily a rework of an existing idea or product although I don't preclude that concept *if* the creator is upfront about it.

      // "Without the support of the crowdfunding community, we would not be able to deliver The Rock to mass production."

      The Z3 is already in mass production. Assuming that this is a rework of a product then I have issues with the overall presentation.

      Feel free to disagree as is your right.

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      Creator Vak Sambath 3 days ago

      I have been on the phone with our manufacturer and I am as disappointed as everyone else if not more. My team and I have been working on this project for years. I will post screenshots of our communications in the past year. This is a disaster and whoever wants to back out please do. And I apologize. But as a team we would not have spent money on patents and development of software to deceive people. Please give us time as now it has become a legal matter so we have to discuss things with our attorney to see how we proceed. Once again please give us sometime to gather all the information as we will release information and be transparent with our watch and the process of development and the manufacturing aspects. But if you're a backer and want to back out we completely understand. Thank you.

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      Creator Romandro 3 days ago

      I'm a regular consumer who cares more about a team's capability to deliver more than some random people trying to discredit a product because they have too much time in the world to spend.

      And personally I would rather save money by backing The Rock than be persuaded by doubters.

      The product design and app features are very promising. I'll give Vak and his team the benefit of the doubt. I also think that this watch is a game changer.. very affordable and promising features.. If they don't deliver on their promises, kickstarter will always be there to protect its users.

      Good luck with this project Vak and hopefully you can update us with further developments.

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      Creator Marco 3 days ago

      Negative comments aside. I think the real value on this watch is in the sophisticated design and app innovations. I sincerely believe that it's still a valuable piece. A lot of smartwatches have similar/close to similar hardware.

      The Rock's edge is mostly in the software development. As we've seen in the video.. They are partners with Pyntail and that itself is a valuable asset that a Smartwatch company.

      Plus if they have the capacity to develop a package alongside the hardware then they are actually doing as a favor by creating something affordable and at the same time luxurious enough to compare if not outdo the pre existing overpriced smartwatches.

      I won't back out just because some people think that they can do better. This product deserves a credit for being bold in offering a very friendly price point and building a team that is totally capable to create an app based Smartwatch.

      Just my two cents.

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      Creator Anurag Gupta 3 days ago

      Current total is $40,005, it will certainly go down !!

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      Creator Pu Hwai Ching 3 days ago

      @Tira thanks for your work. From the start this project has seemed to be more of a marketing than engineering page, glad that the root cause is discovered

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Anurag

      True that :)
      It also makes a statement when funding moves down instead of up....just sayin

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      Creator Anurag Gupta 3 days ago

      @Vishak you can anyways CANCEL it anytime before the target Funding dates :-)

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      Creator Asterix 3 days ago

      Just reduced my pledge to 1 as well.

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      Actually, the more I think about it, the more I now understand why the non Qi watch is running an older Android OS and why Qi is directly tied to the battery.

      Makes it easier to rework existing product.

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      Creator Anurag Gupta 3 days ago

      http://m.youtube.com/watch…

      As per this video, m backing off !!

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      Creator Spenser K 3 days ago

      @Trogdor No worries, I'm just the weird one with two of the letter s

      @Tira Agreed, thank you for catching this early

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Tira - I appreciate the input. I do a fair amount of Chinese shopping and I missed this one. Even did a basic image google search and didn't catch this.

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      Creator Asterix 3 days ago

      @Tira, I understand, thanks for letting us know.

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Spenser K

      Sorry mate. Most people spell it correctly :)

      I'm sure KS will get tags on it...but there have been quite a few projects that were scams that were not cancelled by KS [eyez, for one]. It's a dog eat dog world....

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      Creator Tira Rainer 3 days ago

      @Vishak sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I was needed to report that immediately.
      Hope you can understand

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      Creator Spenser K 3 days ago

      @Vishak I know what you mean! I'm glad that I was hesitant to pledge all the way on this

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      Creator Tira Rainer 3 days ago

      I report it to Kickstarter hope they will do something.

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      Creator Asterix 3 days ago

      Really disappointed!!! Was really hoping to get this watch.

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      See also
      http://www.uplaytablet.com/product/uplay-customized-android-smart-watch-white-label-z3-smart-watch-running-android-4-0-with-a-1-5-touch-screen-bluetooth-4-0-gravity-sensor-and-gyro/
      &&
      http://www.uplaytablet.com/color-pebble-uplays-first-android-smart-watch-z3-99-will-be-released-by-end-of-october-open-to-pre-order/

      zoom in on the pictures...looks very similar to this watch.

      I will still wait to hear from @Vak. I am suspecting they are reworking some existing designs. It is somewhat implied in the timelines as I review them.

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      Creator Spenser K 3 days ago

      @Trogdor Oh crap, hadn't noticed the title underneath that before. Also s, not c, it's amazing how many can read my name and still type it wrong.

      With all that, this seems like it should really be brought up with Kickstarter.

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      Creator Asterix 3 days ago

      @Anurag, yep!!! That looks familiar!!

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      Creator Anurag Gupta 3 days ago

      Hi All,
      Check this video of Z3 Android 4 smartwatch n then comment:

      http://m.youtube.com/watch…

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      Creator Tira Rainer 3 days ago

      @Trogdor
      I just want to alert all the backers and Kickstarter.
      That they even dont know the battery capacity or how much Ram or Rom are inside there watch?? Its a jock!!
      In the Note 3 Samsung succeed to add 3GB of Ram so you think a Team of 5 people will do that ?? They even dont know how to write 4GB of Ram!
      They just buy the Z3 from a trader Chinese company and buy some bands.

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Spencer K

      Look at this
      http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      -vs-
      https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/321/575/e27de70822a6f8fe49a9a5d01a6bcbca_large.jpg…

      They look pretty close to me...[the former is the Z3, the latter is the Rock]

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      Creator Anurag Gupta 3 days ago

      Great info @Tira, I am doubtful about this project from the very start, 4GB RAM, 1080p screen with 240x240 resolution - donno wat that means?
      Calling 4.2 as ICS, keyboard to reply, etc.

      Lets see wat Vak has to say..

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      Creator Spenser K 3 days ago

      oops, *I suggest *think

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      Creator Spenser K 3 days ago

      Not sure if it's just me, but that Z3 looks NOTHING like the Rock. Isuggest that people don't get freaked out and drop this based on one crazy post.

      @Tira if you really thing that this is the same thing, which I doubt, then take it up with Kickstarter.

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      Creator Asterix 3 days ago

      Wow!!!!!!

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      Creator ThaWulf 3 days ago

      Wow... Even if they have an explanation for this... They still basically taking a 30 buck watch and adding a Qi charger and upgrading the specs a bit. And thats if they didn't plan on just sending us all the 30 bucks watch, or nothing at all. The whole 200 dollars off MSRP did seem a little ridiculous.

      I am out.

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      Creator Trogdor 3 days ago

      @Tira - got to admit some of the pictures look very similar for both metal and plastic cases. Interesting that the Z3 runs Android 4.0.

      I await @Vak and his comments regarding this.
      I also have noted Zak has an interest in at least TechZulu...one of the publications listed on the front page.

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      Creator Tira Rainer 3 days ago

      Hi Vak and all Kickstarter backers sorry to blow away your dreams but to protect every backers and myself for this kind of scams I need to report that immediately.
      I am really disappointed to see a project like that (Scam) in Kickstarter!!
      I love Kickstarter and a big fan of it but sorry I feel that I need to alert all the backers here even that I was needed to pay to write this comment!!
      The smartwatch that you are presenting is a poor Chinese smartwatch that is calling the Z3, she came out in China one year ago with no success due to the Bluetooth connection problems with smartphones, the Z3 cost around 30$ on bulk quantities, the spec of this cheap smartwatch are far like you are pretending, very disappointing also to see that you lie to all of us and pretending for long years that your team develop it.
      Take good examples of Pebble, Agents, Omate this guys real work and develop a smartwatch!!!!
      Shame of you and your Team very frustrated that Kickstarter dont do anything and allow this types of projects!!
      Next time try to do your homework and be logical with the spec, 4GB of Ram ?? what you are joking on backers ? 4GB of memory ? For your record this poor Chinese smartwatch have 2GB of memory and 256mb of Ram it is Running on Android 4.1 and not 4.2!! Oled screen?? 1080P ?? What are you dreaming ?? Even you dont know how to explain what is a resolution so you want Oled screen and 1080P on it ?? Vak please stop jock on us, not everybody are dumb!! For your knowledge the Z3 screen is 1,54 poor lcd. Its not possible to add QI charger on the Z3 due to his construction, the charger is a clip like the first Omate charger.
      The App is also developed by the same Chinese company by the name of Appscomm dont confuse with the well known company Foxconn and they are far to finish the app for just receiving Text message.
      Notifications such as Facebook, Email can be receive only by wifi and not like you are pretending by your smartphone like the Gear!! Next time also dont jock on others and do comparisons with Omate and the Neptune Pines that are far far away advanced from the Z3 specifications and features even the old good Pebble are better!!
      For all the backers here is all the proof
      Link of the company that his developing the Z3 (Rock as you pretending) in China: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/783148222/Android_watch_4_0_capacitive_touch.html
      Some pictures of my Z3 that I buy 4 month ago.
      http://postimg.org/image/6deo0ogmr/
      http://postimg.org/image/7kx76mw4z/
      http://postimg.org/image/ekb95zw37/
      http://postimg.org/image/mux2dtrn7/
      http://postimg.org/image/dfclmvk8j/
      http://postimg.org/image/6nqrxrkmr/
      Link of the original picture : http://postimg.org/image/6xyah3z8z/
      Next time dont take us for idiots !!

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      Creator Michael 3 days ago

      Does this work with iphone

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      Creator Stephen Mitchell 3 days ago

      I too am backing this project with a smaller pledge until a lot of the unanswered questions get answered. This is a really interesting watch that I would love to have, but I like many others here, have been burned too many times by other projects. Just being cautious, not negative.

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