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      Creator Greg 1 day ago

      Just measured the cases. Plastic covered area is 12" x 7.25" so it looks like A4 with one cut along the long edge is the way to go. I'll probably print up some sketchy text-only inserts for now so I can stop opening cases to figure out what's inside. Also found the insert goal: Update #71, currently on page 9 of the Updates tab: $550,000 "If we hit this goal we’ll create a range of Downloadable Team Sheet inlays for the Season 1 teams that will fit our White Mantic Carry Cases (available in the extras!) - you’ll be able to download all four of them and customize them with your team name, logos and more!" Can't find any mentioned of them being extended to seasons 2 and 3, however.

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      Creator Joseph Prozinski 1 day ago

      For anyone having problems with missing or miscast items contact stewart.gibbs@manticgames.com
      He is the POC for Dreadball and he will get you straightened out on your problems.

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      Creator SimonHoward42 1 day ago

      @ Greg - I have asked Stewart about this as I am in need of them too.

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      Creator Greg 1 day ago

      Anyone have the story on the "downloadable inlays" for the white cases? I vaguely remember they had intended to includes some but they didn't make the cut? or maybe that there was to be a customizable download so you could add your team name & logo, etc. Just don't want to hand craft something if there's an easier way. Cheers

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      Creator Mike Norris 2 days ago

      Did anyone else, while putting together the Locust City Chiefs, think of the Lusteria Croakers? They are both LC.

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      Creator Shawn Maclauchlan 2 days ago

      I just finished cleaning the lines off my Ludwig when I realized I was missing an arm. Now I need to go through all the bags and do a part check...

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      Creator phillaco 2 days ago

      @Charles Beel Mine was missing stuff too, the female corp players. I sent them a message via Kickstarter, but when I did that because I had a problem with the last shipment I never got a reply. Does anyone know if they expect us to contact them via some other means? Thanks!

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      Creator Charles Beel 3 days ago

      season 2 arrived today, happy with the part of the order that arrived unfortunately seems to have been a shipping snafu as somethings that supposedly shipped are not in the box

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      Creator Patton55 3 days ago

      Has there been any word on the Ultimate Pitch, the one that allows you to have 2-6 players? I ordered that but did not see that on my: Things Still To Come sheet.

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      Creator Mike Gingold 3 days ago

      I am getting frustrated too that local stores have the season two stuff and I do not. I thought Mantic said that season two would not be shipped to distributors until kickstarter suppors shipped. Kickstarter season two supporters did not finish shipping until last Friday.

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      Creator Daniel Magnan 3 days ago

      Got mine yesterday. I'm in Minnesota.

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      Creator Glenn Mochon 3 days ago

      I'm pretty bent out of shape right now. My LGS has had season 2 stuff in for a week, and I still don't have my stuff. I'm getting really tired of putting money into KS projects to help make them a reality, only to have people walk into game stores and buy the finished product before I have mine.

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      Creator Tyler Frazee 3 days ago

      Apologies if this has been addressed...We still have four 2nd quarter all-stars that have not shipped. Yurik, Melliesandra, Nightshade,and Wyn by my accounts. Will these actually be shipping in the 3rd quarter? Also, is this a better question for the the Mantic forums? By the way, my S2 arrived today and all seems cool. Thanks.

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      Creator Ooook 4 days ago

      @Martin : Yes, remaining minis will be delivered with S3 material and in alternate poses.
      But...

      @Mantic : Too many Judwans, Not enough Robots !?
      I ordered a completist pack (Robots + Judwans) during the KS, which means I should get 16 minis of each team, which should allow me to have all available roster configurations on the pitch (cap of each role is twice the starting line-up).
      But when I read S2 rules, it doesn't match...
      1/ Judwans are limited to 12 Strikers on the roster and I will get 16 : what am I supposed to do with the 4 remaining ones ?
      2/ I currently have 3 S / 6 J / 3 G for the Robot Team but with their Quick Change Artist capability I need 14 / 14 / 14 : even w/ my completist pack I won't reach those numbers !

      So, could you please consider to deliver less Judwans (12 instead of 16) and more Robots (if not 14 of each role, at least 8 of each role would be fine).

      Thanks for reading (and sorry to post here, but I can't subscribe to Mantic Forum).

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      Creator Martin Dickson 4 days ago

      Got S2 today here in NZ. Haven't had a chance to really look at them yet but quite excited. :)

      Just to confirm from those in the know, if we pledged for Striker + S2 Upgrade pack (total of 16) figs then the S2 shipment had 8 figs (per team pack) + 2 bonus (Striker) and the remaining 6 will be in S3? (Seems to be what the packing slip is telling me).

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      Creator Andrew Kozma 4 days ago

      Got my season 2 today in Houston, Texas. I received 24 of the 96 hex bases I ordered, though. Everything else looks good, though I have yet to put anything together. More hobbying ahead!

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      Creator Denkstrum 4 days ago

      Got me season 2 shipment today(Alaska for those asking about u.s. shipment), very happy with the figures, great detail, though there willow be mold lines to clean up. Doesn't bother me much as they are great details on the minis. I am a bit bothered about the clear hex bases though, didn't receive any in this pack, is this something that we need to order additionally?

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      Creator Greg Morse 4 days ago

      There have been just a few reports in the last day or two on BGG, so guessing there was a slowdown in customs to the States.

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      Creator Matthew 4 days ago

      Anyone in the USA get their shipment yet?

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      Creator Timothy Colonna 5 days ago

      NVM I finally found them. One woudl think in the dreadball section but buried int eh hobby section they live.

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      Creator Timothy Colonna 5 days ago

      I was pretty shocked when there were no bases, even for the teams I paid extra for. the response was wait till season 3 and add them on or buy them on the webstore. Funny thing is they are nowhere to be found on the webstore. I don't want to wait 6 months for bases.....

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      Creator Jeremy Shannon 5 days ago

      Is it possible to cancel my season 3 items and get a refund?

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      Creator Bruce M 5 days ago

      I got my season 2 shipment today. Wow , what a massive disappointment. The miniatures are terrible and I feel like I have been ripped off! Last kickstarter I do that involves Mantic.

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      Creator Bradley Lawson 5 days ago

      Got mine! Was walking to check mail. Ran into friend randomly.. Decided to play some BOardgames. Joked about season 2 being in mail.. And what do you know! It was!! Haha well needless to say. We decided on playing dreadball.
      Looking at the miniatures. The mold lines seem much better on these newer ones! And the details look really good too! Can't stop looking at buzcut! Looking sweet!

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      Creator Willem-Jan Bertram 5 days ago

      Got the package last weekend and stuff looks great. There is that problem with the Zz'or team missing a player, but it only means Ludwig will make a faster appearance.

      Nothing missing, everything well packaged and only minor mold lines. Then again I've been dabbling with wargames etc for almost 20 years now, I doubt there are any minis out there that could scare me enough to give up fast ; - ) Cleaning and prepping models has simply always been an integral part of my hobby experience, love to make custom bases and the likes, but I can see where how this could be a more daunting task for gamers not used to it. Heard much of the same comments when Sedition Wars arrived.

      As for casting quality, looking at Gabe is bound to give a skewed perspective. Put together a restic mini and undercoat it and Gave and then compare detail. The color of the pewter versus the dull grey of the plastic alone makes then look so different when uncoated that it is hardly fair to compare them like that. Not even to mention that the Gabe sculpt is quite simply more detailed than most of the other characters.

      All in all, very happy with this stuff and looking forward to some good times putting everything together, painting them and getting some games in (Judwan in particular intrigue me).

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      Creator James Jones 6 days ago

      Got my package today and really have not seen any huge problems. Everything is fitting together well and there are mold line, but nothing too crazy or hard to get to. The Zzor have been pretty easy to put together and no broken pieces.

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      Creator Jeremy Shannon 6 days ago

      Got my season 2 shipment today. Very disappointed in the miniatures (although the season 1 was terrible too). Feel like I paid a premium for plastic green army men quality. Has made me very wary of kickstarter and mantic.

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      Creator Bruce M 6 days ago

      Still waiting for my shipment to arrive :-(

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      Creator Crusher100 6 days ago

      I got my package of Season 2.... dissapointed with some imperfections on the figs as some feet from robots are near broken or the Zzor are plenty of mold lines specially in the bases.... Spent more than hour to figure out how to mount some models. Please post in your website a catalog of figs and pieces list to reference specially for the teams as everything comes in the same bag!.

      if this is that the quality expected in the DZ?....

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      Creator frostytaz 6 days ago

      Hey guys- mine arrived today-season 2 with all~in extras, but have the zzor problem too, i think! Plus- are we supposed to get the wyn gretzki or nightshade models with this shipment, or expect them with season three balance later in the year? Want to know before i haunt mantic again!

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      Creator Paul 6 days ago

      Mine arrived today, Lloydminster Alberta.

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      Creator Charles 6 days ago

      I've heard of one group in Canada (same city as I) receiving their second shipment, but I haven't received mine yet. I do hope it will be soon.

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      Creator Maccwar 7 days ago

      The difference between restic (PVC plastic) and polystyrene (aka hard plastic) is tooling costs. The moulds for restic minis is mainly in the tooling costs. Tooling for restic is expensive but much much cheaper than tooling polystyrene miniatures. Restic is also slightly more tolerant of undercuts in the sculpts.

      Here is an example of a tool for a restic mini from sedition wars http://users.infohell.net/~fluffy/DSCN0159.JPG

      If DB had gone with "hard" plastic then the entire campaign might have funded the tooling first 4 teams but certainly wouldn't have gone as far as it has.

      In perspective a certain large miniatures manufacturer is said to have £60 million in tools IIRC.

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      Creator radek on May 13

      @carcharodon

      i can fully understand you. i've been growing up with 40k as well and i know some of the first stuff from mantic like the dwarfs. the models may have not been the best around - but thats okay, they had at least crisp details. something that doesn't really catch my eye when looking at the db minis. i hate this restic stuff (don't get me wrong, i am talking about the material not the minis) it really messes up with the miniatures.
      is restic really cheaper than plastic? i am no expert but from my point of understanding, resin is more expensive than plastic (when looking at the price of resin miniatures) and holds more details. so if resin is superior to plastic, shouldn't a resin/plastic mix should be at least a bit superior to plastic? for me it's not the case here. this material looks inferior to plastic and it even feels like it.
      maybe it would have worked better if the miniatures were bigger or more chunky. buzzsaw for example looks really great.
      cheers

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      Creator Maccwar on May 13

      @carcharodon carcharias - we should really meet up for a game at some point, drop me a PM on the Mantic forum if you are interested.

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      Creator carcharodon carcharias on May 13

      @maccwar
      I figured as much, I spent 3 hours on Sunday cleaning up 3 of the new MVPs, and managed a couple of Void Sirens befor giving up and just gluing the team together so that I can get a game in. With the exception of Rico, these are all dog rough, but coming from 40k (pre failcast) maybe I set my bar too high.

      I'd best finish with the fact that I'm an average painter, so nothing ever reaches display standard, I just like quality product to begin with.

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      Creator Maccwar on May 13

      @carcharodon carcharias - It sounds like you've been unlucky, most of my DB figures have been pretty easy to clean up and assemble. There does seem to be a divide between those who want display quality figures verses those who want pieces to play the game with the latter group being more satisfied than the former.

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      Creator carcharodon carcharias on May 13

      @ Radek

      I thought it was just me, but isn't this a case of "the emperors new clothes?" I went pretty much all in on Dreadball (apart from upgrading the pitch I got everything else). I was sorely disappointed with the quality of the miniatures, and pretty disappointed with the component quality, so I contacted Mantic (Stewart to be specific) directly about this. Here's his response;
      Hi Steve
      Thanks for getting in touch, and for your comments, all of which have been taken on board. I would like to assure you that we have taken steps to avoid issues like this in the future. You may have heard about some of the production delays that we suffered in our factory before the release of DreadBall - to make up the time that we lost we had to ask our factory to massively speed up production on the first run of DreadBall models, and it seems that running the moulds quicker than usual has been detrimental to the quality of the miniatures.

      If you look at our Kings of War resin plastic figures, such as the Gore Riders, Revenant Cavalry, or Warpath figures like the Corporation Marines, you will see that our usual standards are much higher, and these are the standards we are aiming for with both LOKA and the DB Season 2 and 3 releases.

      Please do not hesitate to get in touch if you have any more questions.
      Thanks
      Stewart

      Sadly, the quality of the latest batch of miniatures is as bad as Season 1, and consequently I pulled my Deadzone pledge. Fool me once with rushed production, you can't fool me twice.

      On the plus side, Jake has designed an excellent game, and I applaud Mantic for making inroads into gamers existing budgets. Since I got the Kickstarter bug I no longer spend my hard earned at "you know where", and was looking forward to dropping some decent cash on Deadzone. But until someone convinces me otherwise; Carl Woodrow, Dave C, Orlando and more all seem to be pretty well informed about min companies and their products, and they are all happy with DB so maybe it is just me? it's goodbye (but good luck) Mantic.

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      Creator Orlando_the_Technicoloured on May 13

      @Adam,

      Nobody was sent a 'we've shipped your stuff email',

      Mantic has sent everything out though (the last stuff left the warehouse about 4 days ago now) so I'll guess you should see yours arrive in the next couple of weeks

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      Creator Adam Souza on May 12

      I'm in the US and I haven't even received a shipping confirmation. =(

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      Creator magisystem on May 12

      Tody my S2 stuff arrived here in Germany. Yay.
      I like what i see here, but i was not aware that all models would come without bases. I have never seen a miniature range where you have to buy the bases separately, so i was expecting them to come with the models. If i had known that earlier (must have missed this announcement), i would have added the bases to my order, but it feels kinda like i have to pay twice for the models. I hope to find a store selling compatible hex bases here in germany, cause i don't want to wait until the S3 stuff is shipped... Can anyone give me a hint?

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      Creator radek on May 12

      my package arrived two days ago. i really love you mantic guys but i won't lie to you.
      i am very dissapointed in the quality of the miniatures. while i can live with the fact, that
      they are bit too small for my taste i cannot stand the material. i really cannot understand how you can stick to this material.
      especially since the gabe mvp is made out of metal shows how poor restic reproduces details and sharp edges. for example the anne marie heider miniatures looks really like some big sleazy butterball.
      i wish you would think about common hard plastic you used for example on the dwarfs and the zombies at the very beginning of your company. unfortunately many kickstarter games seem to use restic... big credit goes imo out to dreamforge for putting out some fine plastic sprues of stormtroopers.
      i don't mean to be rude or negative. but i was really looking forward to deadzone but i will have to think over it again, because i don't want to be dissapointed in the miniatures like i got with many of the dreadball minis due to their material. c'mon mantic, you can do better than that! ;)

      cheers

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      Creator Steve on May 11

      @Paul, agreed, not interested in Facebook at all, common sense would be an update in KS.

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      Creator Charles Beel on May 11

      @ahrens I believe Mantis had stated early that all alternative sculpts and prone markers would come in shipment 3

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      Creator Ahrens on May 11

      my shipment arrived in germany. 8 am happy, but all players Form the Teams are standard sculpts. mantic told US in update 83 that strikter Bäcker will geht alternate sculpts, what happend?

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      Creator Paul on May 10

      Good of them to do that...why on earth couldn't they have posted a Kickstarter update, so the BACKERS were informed, not just those who happened to be looking at their Facebook page? I for one don't have or want to have a Facebook account, and I'm sure there's many others.

      On a more pleasant note, has anyone in Canada received theirs?

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      Creator Orlando_the_Technicoloured on May 10

      Mantic have just posted on facebook that all season 2 KS shipments have now been posted

      so everybody should have the stuff soon (of course it will take a while for the stuff sent last to arrive)

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      Creator Sascha Schewe on May 10

      Correction, my bad, the rulebook was under a double bottom :D

      Hidden compartment in the box!
      Would have completely missed that if I hadn't noticed the bottom seemed kinda thick, so be careful to double check when your package arrives!

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      Creator Sascha Schewe on May 10

      Received mine today in Germany, yay for that... but... the package slip says "Season 2 Rulebook", but there's no season 2 rulebook in there, instead there's a Kings of War rulebook... :D

      Was there an update about that that I missed or was my shipment mispackaged? Cause all those nice minis don't really do anything without their rules... ;)

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      Creator Edanimehc on May 10

      received in France today the season 2 package.
      Yeah!!!

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