Twentieth Century Fox asks for time to oppose Dice Age
*news flash*
From the front line:
As if the Ice Age was exclusively the name of a movie, or if Dice Age was a movie itself, the 20th century fox has just asked for an extent of time (till the 10-26-2011) to oppose to the registering of our beloved Dice Age game name.
Now, to provide some co(s)mic relief, GWAL's challenge: PROPOSE NEW NAMES for this game, as a comment below or as a PM if you are shy. Remember, it's not just a game, it's a line of dice, and several games can be played with them, like marbles or playing cards. Name the revolution in playing dice!
Hall of Fame:
Juan Muchos Jarros: DICE MAGE
Dale Reed: DICE RAGE
Andre McInnis: DICE-ISIONS
OF DICE AND MEN
HEAD DICE
DICE-A-RONI
DICE SQUAD
OLD DICE
THE DICE IS RIGHT
Theodore Fauquet: CONVERT DICE
DICE GODS
Ekees: DICE ARTIFACTUS
GRIP OF TITANS
ARTIFACT POLYHEDRA
TESSERACT INFINITUM
FACETS OF MIGHT
COLORED FIDDLY BITS
Zackary Collins: DICE OF THE DEITIES
THE DICE AGES
Tristan Convert: DICE CREAM
ALEA CONFLICTIO
DICE AGE COMPENDIUM
DICE AGE THE CROWN OF GODS
THE CROWN OF GODS
ZUMUX!
DICE ARE GOING EXTREME
DICE A GAME EXTENT
DICE AND GENIUS
DICE ACE
DICE ARE
DICE AGE, THE DEFINITIVE DICE GAME
Rebecca Ruiz: DICE A GODS ERA
Area 42: THE GREAT DICE AGE
THE AGE OF DICE
DICE EVOLUTION
Nicholas W. Peddicord: ROLLING FATES
ORDER OF CHAOS
STATUE-DICE
SHAPE OF FATE
Giovanni Medina: EDAD DE DADOS
DOYCE AGE
DICE DICE BABY
XTREME DICE
Jason Christopher Faught: SCULPTUREHEDRONS
SCULPTYHEDRONS
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FUN REGISTRATION. One dollar is one more step to the game being at your retailer soon, but it is also the fun registration reward! You will be registered as an Initiate of the game at our tournaments, even without having played a single game! But you know the game. You were here before anybody else and you decided to be in.
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MAXWELL'S REWARD. Cheap functional art. For a mere $7 pledge you are pre-ordering and will receive two different Dice Age dice. Let's be honest, you don't play many games yourself, but you want to support this game because you think it's a great idea and would love to see these beautiful mini sculptures exist in the world. (Or maybe you're just a collector of fine art under one inch in height.) Your pledge will put us that much closer to making this game a reality, and you'll be rewarded with receiving two different dice chosen at random. You can keep one and gift one to a friend! Or maybe you can create your own dice mini-game that uses your two unique dice. Let me know what you create and I may add it to the growing list of games used with the Dice Age dice. Includes shipping within the USA. (Shipping to Canada add $5, International add $10 to pledge amount.)
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ONE SET TO RULE THEM ALL. For a $25 pledge you are pre-ordering and will receive one Alpha set of 10 different dice, including pouch and rulebook, (everything it takes), exactly as it will be released on the market. The dice are chosen randomly, but you will have at least two dice of each color. You will be able to play in Duel (which is my favorite way to play), start a collection, or build your own army. Includes shipping within the USA. (Shipping to Canada add $10, International add $15 to pledge amount)
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THE FULL ALPHA CASTING. For a $50 pledge you are pre-ordering and will receive one complete Alpha collection of 23 different dice, including one pouch and one rulebook. This exhaustive full set will not be sold at your retailer. You can play up to 4 players and no die will be a mystery to you. Includes shipping within the USA. (Shipping to Canada add $10, International add $15 to pledge amount)
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TWO FULL CASTINGS OF 23 DICE. For a $100 pledge you are pre-ordering and will receive two full Alpha collections of 23 different dice, including two pouches and two rulebooks. As a partisan of the fullsome, I can tell you it is not too much. You and your friends will be able to build your own armies of dice with doubles: thus, play bigger battles and discover the game's most advanced strategies. You can also give the second set as a present. Includes shipping within the USA. (Shipping to Canada add $10, International add $15 to pledge amount)
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ADOPT A DIE OPERATION. For those who really care! For a $150 pledge, you will receive one full Alpha collection of the 23 different dice, and become the godfather of a new die. Every die has the right to just be. For the 23 Dice Age dice that are released now, a hundred of others are still waiting in the laboratory to be reshaped and heralded to the Alpha master level. By adopting a die, you choose a die-to-be that will be redesigned. You will receive a polyurethane unique unpainted casting of the master: what we use to confirm the master before it is carved into the steel mold. Furthermore, when the master appears in the next Dice Age Compendium rulebook issue, your name will be marked as the godfather of this die. Contact us for choosing the die you want to adopt. (Shipping to Canada add $10, International add $15 to pledge amount)
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ADOPT A DIE WITH EXTRA FULL ALPHA CASTING. For a $175 pledge, you will receive two full Alpha collections of the 23 different dice, and become the godfather of a new die: Same as above, plus one extra Full casting of the 23 alpha dice. (Shipping to Canada add $10, International add $15 to pledge amount)
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DIPLOMATIC POUCH. For a $500 pledge, you will receive: - One draft PROXY ultra-limited set of the first 16 different dice, - Eight sets of the alpha edition, in deluxe leather pouches: a huge 184 Alpha dice. - A lifetime scoop shipping of one copy of each adopted die PU prototype (see adopt-a-die operation, There are three as of today, may the 30th 2011). - Tournament Expert level promotion and Official Dice Age referee's Orange necktie. With this unbeatable lot, shipped for free anywhere in the US (shipping to Canada add $15, International add $25 to pledge amount), you become an Ambassador of the game. You have all it takes to discover the game, have others discover it, and even make discoveries as a part of the Research and Development. You will be, for years to come, one of the pillars of the growing player's community and specialist of the game with first access to its developments. The PROXY set is handmade and hand painted for you by the designer (yours truly). This is a piece of art and it comes with a signed serialized certificate. Those sets are cast in the silicone mold, therefore there can be only a very limited series. After all, this project sounds the death knell and will end the limited era of the handmade sets. They are closer to the art that inspired this game. The crazy diplomatic pack of eight full Alpha collections of the 23 different Alpha edition dice, including deluxe leather pouches, is for you to have others around you discover the dice. You can hoard them up, make gifts, give dice away one by one as a unique souvenir or reward, as you will have anything it takes to organize your own tournaments: You will also receive the tournament organization kit and the official Dice Age referee's necktie, used at every Dice Age tournament since 1997: - http://jeuxsoc.fr/article/bes_2002/gellule.jpg - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150100677194039&set=t.747449038&type=1&theater. Each time a Dice Age die is adopted, you will receive a scoop copy (physical die) of the prototype. Now and forever. Furthermore, you will really help the game in its history and we thank you for pushing forward new game concepts like this one!
Comments
Creator Tristan V Convert on January 12, 2012
Thank you all for those propositions. Some of them really kick a**. We found a way to keep dice Age, as you know. Is this just luck?
Creator Tristan V Convert on August 24, 2011
Please vote on the forum: http://diceagegame.lefora.com/2011/08/23/new-dice-age-potential-name-poll/
Creator Jason Christopher Faught on August 24, 2011
Convert Dice has my vote.
Creator Tristan V Convert on August 12, 2011
Now, let's Vote. Pick up your favorite answer and post it here!
Creator GWAL on August 4, 2011
Glad you were open about the name of the game! I personally like THE CROWN OF GODS. Or even DICE OF THE DEITIES. And yes, we all want to see this game made, we won't let the big guys crush this one it seems, which is awesome. Drooling over those alphas, can't wait to have a fist full of them! Keep up the good work man!
Creator Jason Christopher Faught on August 3, 2011
But for a more serious suggestion, how about calling them Sculpturehedrons? Hmm, Sculptyhedrons? Neat!
Creator Jason Christopher Faught on August 3, 2011
I find myself rather partial to Diceage, as in, you got some Diceage, man! Or, thats some mean Diceage!
Creator Cédric Nibaudeau on August 3, 2011
To have more troubles with studios ...
Live and let dice !
Creator Giovanni Medina on August 3, 2011
Edad de dados? Doyce Age? Dice Dice baby? Xtreme Dice!?
Creator Nicholas W. Peddicord on August 1, 2011
A few of my suggestions:
Rolling Fates
order of chaos
Statue-dice
Shape of Fate
Creator Area 42 Games on July 31, 2011
I'd say register the trademark as "Tristan V. Convert's Dice Age" and then print on the box your name very small and then Dice Age really big.
Other ideas:
The Great Dice Age
The Age of Dice
Dice Evolution
Creator Tristan V Convert on July 29, 2011
Pay enough and it will prove the point. The trademarks bureau approved the brand. The crappy movie owners don't seem to. I figured come on, I'd do the same; but actually I didn't, as I live with Dice Age Games in peace.
It may be cheaper to find a new name before everything is printed or the game is too much known. But what can then prevent them from suing Dice Ace for example? I don't know. The best thing is to ask the benediction of those monarchs-over-the-law before we file another name. If they deign answer us!
Creator ozymandias on July 29, 2011
I thought trademarks only could apply if there was a reasonable expectation of confusion. There is no risk of confusing a game played with new, and novel dice with a game themed after those crappy movies....
Creator Théodore Fauquet on July 29, 2011
Actually the Convert Dice idea can be quite nice.
Of course it refers to the great creator of the game
but also to the fact that the Dice can be used for many games.
The many shapes of all Dice get along also well with this name.
The only problem is that it sounds a little too much like a collectible
game rather than a serious game.
Creator Théodore Fauquet on July 29, 2011
I like "The Dice Ages", it keeps alive the old name and is far enough from the "Ice Age" name (if they still fight for that, they would be really quibbling)
Otherwise I was thinking of
DICE GODS
CONVERT DICE (as a little pun)
Creator Zackary Collins on July 29, 2011
Dice Age 2: The Meltdown or maybe Dice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs...
Ok just kidding, here are some real names:
Dice of the Deities
The Dice Ages
Creator Andre McInnis on July 28, 2011
Here is some more
OF DICE AND MEN
HEAD DICE
DICE-A-RONI
DICE SQUAD
OLD DICE
THE DICE IS RIGHT
Creator victorvusa on July 28, 2011
I think I bit off more than I could chew, but regardless, here are some alternate names that came to mind:
Dice Artifactus
Grip of Titans
Artifact Polyhedra
Tesseract Infinitum
Facets of Might
Colored Fiddly Bits
Creator Dale Reed on July 28, 2011
After reading what Fox are up to, I think DICE RAGE would be appropriate! How arrogant are they to think they can copyright the words Ice Age just because of their sub par movies?!!! I can't imagine they have a leg to stand on with that one. Perhaps someone should tell them that foxes existed before they did too. Or perhaps they're already suing all the foxes till they change their name?
Creator Andre McInnis on July 28, 2011
DICE-ISIONS
Creator Tristan V Convert on July 28, 2011
HAHAHA I like it.
@ Jason Christopher Faught, you right spotted it, man.
Creator Juan Muchos Jarros on July 28, 2011
i vote for "Dice Mage". it's somewhat descriptive of the character of the player, and requires minimal change to the name (as i fear change).
p.s.: i'm only half serious, though to be honest i'm only half kidding as well. so i'm covered whether you like it or not.
Creator Tristan V Convert on July 28, 2011
@ Charlles Rubin, Well, yes. Fight the ridiculous.
@ GWAL, I don't care so much about the name. Can we find another one? Good game! C'mon here guys - and gals - PROPOSE NAMES FOR THIS GAME, this will provide some co(s)mic relief. Either here on in PM if you are shy.
But this doesn't mean I'll try my best to go on with Dice Age.
Creator Charles Rubin on July 28, 2011
Sadly, "ridiculous" has become the name of the game on many copyright issues. Shepard is right that trying to reason with them is a good first step, but if they were being reasonable they would not have filed as they did. So I hope 'ready to fight" means prepared to hire a lawyer with the relevant expertise. . .
Creator vande casteele on July 28, 2011
THEY'RE "HAS BEEN" : 20th Century Fox... it's 21th century now, hi hi!
sorry...
Creator vande casteele on July 28, 2011
DÉTRUIRE !!!
Creator enrico bedosti on July 28, 2011
This is ridiculous. You might want to point out that, in the gaming industry, Wizards of the Coast used ICE AGE (and not DICE AGE but actually ICE AGE) as the name of an early expansion (1995) of its famous Magic the Gathering trading-card-game... so maybe WOTC should sue 20th century fox for later calling their movie like that ?!
Creator Linda Biancalani on July 28, 2011
Go get 'em!!!
Creator Nicholas W. Peddicord on July 28, 2011
Go big think of the free publicity they'll give you!
Creator James Weeks on July 28, 2011
How ludicrously childish of a huge corporation. I'm honestly ashamed that there are people like this on our little rock. (There are worse people out there, but its still sad.)
Creator Jason Christopher Faught on July 28, 2011
And so the malarky begins... Next thing you'll need to be weary of is Steve J*****n.
Creator GWAL on July 28, 2011
Welcome to America, we don't want anyone to come up with anything. That said, I'd see what they do, but if they really don't like it, maybe you could just change the name to something else? I know it sucks, but Fox will bring a ton of money against little guys if they feel the need to.
Creator divaD27182 on July 27, 2011
A little browsing on http://tess2.uspto.gov/ revealed 15 different LIVE trademarks with text "ICE AGE". 12 were Fox. 10 others are "ICE AGE CONTENTAL DRIFT". Several of Fox's "ICE AGE" trademarks are dead. Someone has a live 1995 "ICE AGE" trademark (bottled water etc ...).
Maybe Fox thinks you conflict with "non-Christmas ornaments made of plaster, plastic, wax or wood" or "party ornaments of plastic" in 85342740. Of course, they apparently filed for that one in June of this year. (Which may mean that, if Fox considers that to be a goods and service match, then maybe you should oppose theirs. [I am not a lawyer.])
Creator Tristan V Convert on July 27, 2011
Or did you mean the advertisement on the page? It seems its linked to this page...
Creator Tristan V Convert on July 27, 2011
Easy, FOX is only a potential opposer today. I suppose it's about Ice Age, they want to look up if it can interfere with their toys I guess. I don't think there are Ice Age the movie yogurts ^^
Creator Charles Bonnell on July 27, 2011
Maybe these guys should send Fox an email about infringement.
http://hospitality.zibb.com/trademark/ice+age/30243188
Creator shepard on July 27, 2011
I just asked my dad (who has many years of experience in patent and trademark law), and he suggests reasoning with FOX would be easier than lawyering up and 'fighting'. If you email me, he said he could give you some advice on how to handle this. *Note: He is not a practicing attorney, but can point you in the right direction.
Creator Jeff Nurkiewicz on July 27, 2011
Are you kidding me? NEVER occurred to me. Fight the stupidity of Corporate America (but don't go broke doing it - I want my dice :-)
Creator H Lynnea on July 27, 2011
Geeze. Guess I'm a huge geek, because when I first saw the name of this project, I thought of the different ages of Civilization (Stone, Bronze, Iron, &c.). I certainly never connected it with a cartoon.
There's no way Fox can trademark the name "Ice Age". And the logos look nothing alike, so there's no infringement there. This is just a waste of their lawyers' time.
Creator Tristan V Convert on July 27, 2011
Ok, honestly. Who thought of the movie when meeting this game's name? Are we going so poor that cartoons are replacing scientific references?
Creator melibabe on July 27, 2011
Are they insane? Let's get this out to in the social media sphere. Mobilize the troops!
Creator Bryan Graham on July 27, 2011
Toys-R-Us nothing, Microsoft, Oracle, and Apple (a company I otherwise like) have turned bullying small companies over patent/copyright/trademark infringement in a cash-cow. It's ridiculous and thoroughly infuriating. Fight 'em Tristan. I hope you win easily, and they waste a ton of money.
They fail on both parts: Even if you could trademark Ice Age (which shouldn't have been aloud in the first place; it's a well recognized scientific term), the fact that Ice Age would prevent Dice Age from being used......grrrr, It just makes me wanna scream.
Creator victorvusa on July 27, 2011
The last thing I want is for this to become a frivolous legal hassle that bankrupts Dice Age.
Frozen water from a prehistoric era has nothing to do with specialty random number generators. This stinks of the Toys-R-Us bullying methodology. How bloody infuriating.
Creator Eric Johnson on July 27, 2011
They should be ashamed of themselves. I'm just glad we have such a "free" market to fall back on. Oops.
Creator Andrew Lohmann on July 27, 2011
And of course now I will too have to reconsider the name for the game I was designing in which tiny human parasites seek to survive (and escape) their prison.
Creator writingmonkey on July 27, 2011
How ridiculous. Good luck in your fight.
Creator Andre McInnis on July 27, 2011
I better rethink the name of my new collectible rodent throwing game!
Creator Alissa Simon on July 27, 2011
Agree with Mattia. I was going to point out the exact same thing.
Creator Mattia on July 27, 2011
Just a tidbit of information that may prove useful: in the game industry there is at least one precedent of Ice Age being used to market a CCG. In 1995, Wizard of the Coast published a Magic the Gathering expansion named "Ice Age".
Don't let the big guy push you around!
Creator Andre McInnis on July 27, 2011
Just spell "Dice" with a "y" and a silent 'q".