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on June 20, 2010
Donát János
commented on a projectOK, I can not change your way of thinking. I believe in my truth, and you believe in yours. Make your film, it doesn't count. You earn some money, some fame, but that's all. There was a thousand more production like that, and nothing changed in the direction you want. But every film added a small amount of rage to the feelings of the 91% of Hungarians. You want to help solving the conflicts between gypsies and non gypsies? Then do not make a film about the gypsies, but make a film FOR them! Make a film, that tells them, they already received all the help, that the majority could given, and now comes their turn. Make a film, that tells them, to have just many children, they could raise up in good conditions. Make a film, that tells them, that stealing is crime, even committed by the poor. Make a film, that tells them, the importance of honesty, labour, tolerance(!), over money, gold, cars and all other material thing. Make a film, that tells them, that every act has its consequence, even for gypsies. If you believe me not, then listen to the words of a gypsy leader ("Vajda"), Attila Lakatos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmCNGbxaDoc (in Hungarian) "There are villages, where the non gypsies, can not go to church, only when the old uncle goes in the morning, and the aunt goes in the afternoon - because if they leave their houses, [the gypsies] break in" "They say, there is no "gypsycrime". But if, from 10 perpetrators, 10 are gypsies, from 20 are 20, then what is it?" "The teacher give a failing grade to the child, who goes home: "dad, I got a D". The father goes in, beat the teacher, because the teacher is racist, but in the last six month, they did not asked his child, where he/she was going to school, where the child were." "The teacher is racist; If the doctor don't cure me out of cancer, then the doctor is racist. In the "obligatory insurance" is that it is obligatory - the gypsies don't need it too. The policeman is racist - well, everyone is racist in this country?" I was not born to racist, I never was a skinhead or so, I never assaulted anybody, but I grew up in a village, where the population was 40%+ gypsies. I was beaten in the school by gypsies, my father was beaten by gypsies, our house was robbed by gypsies, our garden was set on fire by gypsies, our fruits/greens was stolen by gypsies, every year. And not because we have provoked them, or we were not tolerant enough. And our case is not special - this things are everywhere in the villages, where gypsies live. In our neighbours, there are 8 children. Till now, all of them were committed some crime. None of them has a job, but they managed to get an Audi (this is a status symbol to them), and their mother is every day in the tavern. Their father died in an accident: a tree was fallen upon he, when he was stealing from the forest. There are, about 7-8% gypsies in Hungary, but in the jails, 70+%. (This is not official statistic, because it is forbidden to record, the ethnic origin in Hungary, but I have a friend in the police, who sees the reports, and from the surnames, you can tell it) Oh, and at last. About the 8 gypsy that killed in the recent years. The project creators forgot to mention, that not all were racist motivated, and some were committed by gypsies. Like the hand grenade case at Pécs, where 2 people were killed. The murder's name was Jenő Bogdán, and he was a member of a Gypsy Minority Self-government in a village near Pécs...but, like many times before, the media immediately, called this case a racist motivated one, and "jumped to the throat" of the Hungarians...and when the murders ethnic origin had been cleared up, nobody asked forgiveness, and up to the present, people often count this in the racist motivated cases. You could think I am a racist, or skinhead, or just a moron, or anything. I don't care :) Really :) But my way of thinking is a very good reflection of the majority. All films like this, will be just another thorn, put under our nails. I think you are all blind, or are terribly naive, or have a good reason to escalate the ethnic conflicts. Also I presume, you think the same about me :) But think again the words of a gypsy, about the facts: "They say, there is no "gypsycrime". But if, from 10 perpetrators, 10 are gypsies, from 20 are 20, then what is it?"
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on June 14, 2010
Donát János
commented on a projectThis project is based on ugly lies, and the political propaganda of the neoliberals, and left-wing parties in Hungary. I live in Hungary, and i KNOW the real situation here. Hungary has a mixed population with many minorities, and besides the very few exceptions, everyone is as tolerant, as possible. Of course there are conflicts between races, but making the thousand plus one film, that shows only the aspects of the Romas, will be just another twist on the already well distorted truth, presented by the international media. So, the project creators says, that 8 Romas died recently. This is true, but only because there was ONE exceptional serial-killier case! The police already arrested, and charged all of the murders. The authority offered a reward of 50.000.000 HUF (~250.000 USD). This was the largest reward in the history of Hungary. So the statement of the project creators: "Police don’t even pursue crimes against Gypsies." is just a lie. The thruth is, just the oposite of this! There are so many crimes committed by Gipsyes (especialy: stabbing, wood thievery, non-ferrous metal thievery, etc), that the police, don't have enough resources to handle them, and in many cases, they just close the case without any real investigation. And there are a dozens of killings every year, againts non Roma people, committed by Romas, and many of them are racist motivated! And besides of this, no film ever made, that demonstrates the aspect of non Roma pepole suffering from Roma crimes day-by-day... There was a poll, that questioned the people about, "Do you think that the expression "romacrimes" ("cigánybűnözés" in hungarian), covers an existing phenomenon?" The 91% of the people answered yes... Do you think, that 91 percent of hungary is racist, without any reason? In spite of that every media tries to show an image about the Roma people as good, as possible, despite of the thruth? I have a friend at the police, and he just returned from a village called Felsőzsolca. He was ordered there, to help the locals, fight against the water, and to help the restoration after the devastating flood of the last weeks. He told me, that the Romas, except for a few one, are not helping, but robbing the empty houses! One group even robbed the team-carrying bus of the police, and stole the properties of the hard working helpers! The non Roma locals are afraid to leave their flooded, unsafe homes, to the temporary quarters, beacuse of the looting Roma bands. THIS is the truth! This is the every day reality of, the hungarian villages! And as always, the media is in the hand of the 5%, who thinks that Gypsies is some child-loving, cheerful, dancing, nomad people... Now, this is prejudice! And all the above are facts, and "postjudices" of the 91% of hungarians! Sorry for my spelling, but i never wrote any english text, so long. I just got very frustrated, about this lies! Please cancel this project, open your mind, and learn the reality! The fighting against racism, is a very dangarous, two-edged sword! Don't turn it against the already suffering innocents!
Donát János
Donát János joined Kickstarter on June 14, 2010
